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“I think with a series like this, it’s easy to get 12 years in, to get so inside baseball, to almost take things for granted,” Chaves said. “I think when you do that, you’re only speaking to the most hardcore fans, and you start to lose the magic of seeing it for the first time. I remember seeing The Conjuring for the first time, I think so many people do, and just being introduced to that world. That’s what we get with Tony. Tony gets to come into this world with a fresh pair of eyes.”

“I was always [saying] to Ben, ‘You are a breath of fresh air. You don’t have any of the baggage of the previous movies. You don’t have any of the baggage of surviving exorcisms or dealing with demons. You get to come in here and ask all the questions, see it all for the first time,’” the director continued. “And I think that, especially for an ending, I think that there is something so wonderful about that. I think that also opens up the movie to so many new fans.”








